March 22, 2004

Farrah Ashline is a lovely person

My capital informants seem to have a lot to get off their chests. Turns out we all missed our chance to snatch up girlsgoingout.com on eBay a few months ago. Here's the link to the auction. $250,000 may seem a bit steep at first, but do note the following: "As the CEO and creator of both GirlsGoingOut.Com & WOMagazine.Com, I can attest that there has never been a better business concept and one that women AND businesses BOTH want!" What a steal!

It's possible, though, we're being too harsh on Ms. Ashline. There's no better judge of character than eBay feedback, and she gets high marks. bombshellvintage is her biggest fan, announcing, "Thanks for a PURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRfect Transaction! >^..^<" and "What A Lovely Person You Are... Not To Mention Your Excellent Taste In Vintage!!" So let's give her a break, okay?

Posted by withers at March 22, 2004 11:33 AM
Comments

Everyone knows the proper way to make cat whiskers in ASCII is with equal signs, not greater than/less than symbols.

Posted by: Mark at March 23, 2004 09:14 AM

People do not be fooled... Farrah Ashline is a complete con-artist and fraud. She has a warrant out for her arrest and several ex-employees have judgments against her for not paying them. I have spoken with several of her ex-employees, people like myself for as far back as two years ago. I have not met one person who has been paid by Farrah. Please do not be duped by her by giving her your money for you will never see anything back from it and she will only drag your name through the mud along with hers.

Posted by: GGO-Ex-Employee at March 23, 2004 12:58 PM

Most of the information being floated on the Internet about her is factually incorrect. Evidently the story Richard Leiby floated in the Washington Post had no weight. Neither do the comments from supposed former employees.

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at March 23, 2004 03:24 PM

What would the world be like if in place of sitting in front of your computers trying to dish out gossip diddys and complaints about my supposeof business/and/or personal life, you chose to do something of REAL importance, such as write letters for Amnesty International, Greenpeace, or human rights organizations in which your writing skills could truly make a difference? I would gladly have any person who claims to have written, been contracted to work, or "employed" to come meet at our office, thus providing the documentation that shows the fact that they were indeed contracted out to hire to indeed be paid for some service they performed for our organization. Let's settle this supposeof claim for all who desire to know of non payment by sitting in a room together with our team and the supposeof "mal treated" and see all the documentation of work unpaid.

I highly doubt that day will come because there is no documentation supporting it. And I doubt my business would be thriving this long if I 've never paid my people as implied. And while you're writing your ever-so-important-daily-dish, why not include background checks of nearly all the CEO's running big companies today. I challenge to say that there would be even BIGGER surprises to find for all of those ever-so-busy detectives who are searching for some dish.

And I'm sure that the media is always thorough in their reporting skills. I mean in light of Jason Blair(who according to him says this happens ALL the time) the media is ALWAYS looking in our best interest right? (Ps. Anyone have five minutes leftover in their gossip day to wonder about what happened to Saddam Hussein, Gary Condit, or Bosnia?) Just in case you've still not been suckered into believing every little ounce you read and see , just remember: the media gives you exactly what you what. Which is apparently a little diversion excitement from your otherwise ordinary, dull existence. Perhaps it is for this reason that Sex and the City, Friends, and Frasier are all being replaced by Extreme Makeover, Who Wants To Marry MY Dad, and various versions of the Bachelorette?

What we love most about our American culture is building people up if only to tear them down. I think other than Mother Teresa nearly every celebrity is suspect for doing something at some point. What I find sad is that reporters like Mr. Lieby choose to misdirect the focus in that if you really want to inform people on prostitutes, why not take a trip to downtown DC and see the countless women and young girls who have no other choice BUT to sell their bodies to eat and survive. It's a story that is certainly real and verifiable but certainly not going to be as "juicy" as you'd really want to see.

The people who are close to me, friends, family and associates already know what happened. Every member of my web site who ever attended one of my New Member conferences I held twice monthly for the past two years already knows my story from one of the questions I ask all women to share, "What was the most difficult experience you have gone through in your life, and how has it made you stronger." Any woman who has attended that conference already knows the truth.

What I'll wager a bet on is that the people who think they know what they're talking about really don't, as any person who have spoken to me directly knows who I am and what I stand for. Showing a photo of me with drag queens at a film festival doesn't tell the entire story, and by giving one part of story without the beginning, middle or end is like trying to pitch to a publisher why they should publish your idea based on a title alone.

Needless to say, the commentary will not stop my purpose which is to forge forward in providing one of the most amazing web sites for women yet to come by April. There is a lot of real work to be done.

Respectfully,
Farrah Ashline
CEO/Founder GirlsGoingOut.Com

Posted by: Farrah Ashline at March 23, 2004 03:29 PM

As one of the ex-GGO employees I will atest that what has been said about Farrah not paying her employees as being true. Farrah hired me as her personal assistant/executive assistant in late August 2003 and I worked for her for nearly a month in which I not only was never paid one penny for my work (despite being hired on a salary of $30,000) but I was told to use my personal cell phone for business calls and that Farrah would reimburse me later. When I brought up the reimbursements at a later date (which totalled over $400) she balked at me as to why she should pay my bills. I genuinely liked Farrah and believe in what she told me. I thought we had developed a friendship on top of a working relationship. At the time when I knew I was having doubts I told her that I was unsure about my career change. (I had left a previous job because Farrah had offered me so much money to be her assistant-- as someone who had just graduated college in May 2003 her offer of $30,000 seemed too good to be true.... too bad I didn't realize it was) I tried to leave on the best note possible as I did not want to hurt Farrah or the business but I felt like I was being taken advantage of and that I was never going to see my money--- despite her promises that I would of course get paid. I returned all materials and even gave her a disk of important documents for quick reference that I thought she might need. When I left she told me that we would meet the following week to go over my money and to pay me. She told me that she wanted to go back and count up all my hours and pay me hourly. (Which is illegal to do... you hire someone at a specific salary and they must get paid by that salary... not a different hourly rate after the fact) However, I was willing to be reasonable as I just wanted some of the money she owed me (which in salary or hourly wages would still be around $2000 no matter which way you cut it) She put me off for weeks and constantly left town when we were supposed to meet. After about three weeks of trying to meet up to get my money she finally told me to stop harrassing her and to stop calling her. I was professional and reasonable this entire time but it was no use. I finally took legal action after having several lawyers reject me because my case was for "too little money" according to lawyers. I would not give up. I sued Farrah in the Fairfax courts and won my case despite her getting a continuance without ever showing up to the courthouse. (I do have the court judgement to back up that claim) Sadly however, the courts do not enfore the judgment so I will still probably never see my money. (I would be able to garnish her wages and things of that nature... but she is self-employeed and does not get a regular paycheck so I'm out of luck there) On the note of a contract... Farrah never told me I was an independent contractor until AFTER I already was working for her and I asked her when I was going to fill out my W-2. Despite that, all of the actions I did fall under the role of a regular full employees not an independent contractor anyways. (I made many many phone calls for her in preparation for an event, scheduled interviews, worked on a massive speadsheet project, sent out new member packets, updated the member list, walked her dog Okie 2-3 times a day, feed her cats, did her laundry, did her ironing, vacuumed her apartment, took out the trash, cleaned her bathrooms *including scrubbing her floors on my knees*, made her food, picked up her drycleaning, did her grocery shopping (for which she would usually give me $20 when the bill would be more then $40 thus making me cover the rest of the bill without getting reimbursed despite me telling her that I would not do that after the 4th time it happened), and more.)I asked Farrah repeatedly when we were going to do my contract and constantly heard "Not now Candy... can't you see now's not a good time... tomorrow.... tomorrow... tomorrow" I was starting to feel like a chump and I did not spend thousands of dollars on my education to feel like cinderella scrubbing Farrah's floors on my hands and knees without seeing any money. (I can't see how Farrah could in good conscious contest that she hired me and that I worked for her, but if she does I do have paperwork to confirm that I was in fact an employee of Farrah and GGO) Sadly however, I returned the majority of my "official" paperwork including my daily reports. While I worked for her, Farrah did praise me to my face as well as to others. On some days I worked on stuff for GGO for 12 hours in the day and still made it to her apartment before 8am to walk Okie in the mornings. I tried repeatedly to contact Farrah but most of the time she would make threats or simply just hang up on me when she heard who was on the phone. I was even willing to take almost half of what she owed me money wise just to get something. Being someone who was just out of college I was actually doing well for myself and keeping my head above water. However, the situation with Farrah put me in a bad way finacially. I worked for her for nearly a month which in reality I never got paid for but still had great expenses. I was then unemployeed for nearly another month until I found a new job (that actually pays me what they said they would! what a novel idea!) All along... even for weeks and close to two months after I stopped working for Farrah I believed she would pay me. I couldn't imagine how someone could do that to a person. I was shocked and sadened to find more people who were like me, got duped by Farrah and never got paid. Since October I have found out of over 20 ex-employees all of which have the same story with Farrah. Basically, Farrah puts up free job post- gets lots of response (especially in the past year or so with the job force like it is she would get dozens and dozens of resumes) hires someone, doesn't pay them, they wise up and leave, and she simply moves on to the next person. In coming forward more than anything I simply wanted to prevent Farrah from purpetating this cycle onto more young vulnerable naive women. I already have emotional and financial scars from my encounter with her but maybe I can prevent this from happening to someone else like me. I do not know what sort of response this shall illcit, I hope more than anything that people just open their eyes and see that what she is doing is not only highly illegal (as she is not only not reporting her employees, but not paying taxes on them as well, aside from just flat out not paying the employees themselves) but is hurting people's lives. Everyday I wake up wishing I had never taken the job with Farrah, that I should have listened to my father when he said something sounds fishy with the job in the first place, or that at least now months later I can put it all behind me. I have moved on to another better job where I am treated with professionalism and respect and am trying to simply move onto the next chapter in my life but I feel complelled to speak out when necessary. I hope that now more people will not just think that these "stories" are rants from angry ex-employees who are mad and out to get Farrah but real people who are telling the truth about the way they got conned. And for you Farrah, if you read this, I hope you realize that you can't just hire people and never pay them (even if after the fact you are "unhappy" about their work, they still performed the work you asked them to and you must pay them accordingly) without any repurcussions. What are you doing is having a lasting impact on the women you hire and sooner or later everything will catch up with you and when that day comes you will have no one to blame but yourself. I suggest you stop running, hiding, lying, and finger pointing-- come out- admit your mistakes, pay your debts, and move on with your life.

Posted by: Candy at March 24, 2004 09:54 AM

Ms. Ashline,

I requested time and again to meet with you at your office or otherwise concerning my work for you. For over a month I tried to contact you everyday, leaving voicemail messages and email.

On December 10, 2003 you finally answered your phone, told me you would call me back, I told you it was a simply question: when will I be paid? You immediately hung up on me.

I DO have documentation to support my employment with you, and many people saw my picture and bio up on your site up until the day, earlier this month, when you removed the www.girlsgoingout.com website from the World Wide Web, though I had not worked with you since October 2003.

I wonder why I never received that phone call. Were you too busy with your philanthropist efforts?

Respectfully,

Jeanne Casey

Posted by: Jeanne Casey at March 24, 2004 10:13 AM

Since when does e-bay pay GGO?

Posted by: PFM at March 24, 2004 11:53 AM

I tried to email Raoul Ancarra and the email kicked back, unknown user. If you get this Raoul, please email me. I'm interested in your posting.

I agree with PFM, what does positive feedback in E-Bay have anything to do with GirlsGoingout?

RL

Posted by: Rachel Ludwig at March 24, 2004 01:27 PM

withers, look what you started. this is just bizarre.

Posted by: kelli at March 25, 2004 02:01 AM

Well it appears that Farrah has moved out of her Fairfax apartment/office and is on the move once again. One of her ex-employees that she denied worked for her has bought the name domain to womagazine (and I believe girlsgoingout.com too) I'm sure that it is only a matter of time before Farrah goes to a new city, starts a new company and does the same thing all over again. I (and we as ex-employees) will never see our money but at least we fought the good fight. I feel confident that sooner or later everything will catch up to her and she will get what is coming to her. (That's just the nature of life--- so be ware Farrah)

Posted by: Candy at March 26, 2004 09:44 AM

Five Easy (or not so Easy) Questions.

1. A commenter here who claims to be named Raoul Ancarra says that all of the people who have made claims against Farrah Ashline have lied and Richard Leiby has committed libel. However, the public claimants against Ms. Ashline have gone on record, including quotes in one of the leading newspapers in the U.S. using their real names and Richard Leiby has staked his professional reputation on his column. Are we to believe that all of these people have placed themselves on the line to join a conspiracy against Farrah Ashline just for kicks?

2. Ms. Ashline, you're fond of using the word "supposeof." You used it twice here and twice in your reply e-mail to Richard Leiby. Someone with the intellect to run a quarter million dollar business and study at the Sorbonne must be familiar with the concept of providing citations to go along with written work, so could you please provide some documentation (like a dictionary definition) which shows that "supposeof" is an actual word?

3. Ms. Ashline, how do you square your claim that none of the complainants against you were actually employed by GGO when Ms. Casey and others were in fact featured on your staff page with photographs and biographies, seen my your tens of thousands of visitors? There are screenshots and source saves to prove this, so why do you continue to deny?

4. A question on a point of logic, Ms. Ashline: How does using the words of Jayson Blair to "prove" any point about the veracity of the media make any sense when Mr. Blair is a proven and admitted liar? Are you suggesting that anything he says can be taken at face value?

5. Ms. Ashline, the issue of your arrest in New York state was a minor aside meant only as a point of reference on your personal character. You've chosen to continue to dwell on this matter which, to hear you tell it, was nothing more than a misunderstanding and a mistake. If that's so, why repeatedly mention and attempt to make explanations about the matter while simultaneously ignoring the main and most important issue: your dealings with an ever-growing number of former employees/contractors and customers of GGO.com?

I don't actually expect Farrah Ashline to answer any of these questions. She makes it a routine to ignore direct inquiries. But those who want to know more can visit http://karma.fnord.net/ for a compendium of Ms. Ashline's hijinks. Good reading for all interested parties.

Posted by: Innocent Bystander at March 27, 2004 10:53 AM

Oh Farrah,
Why continue this fantasy? There is overwhelming evidence against you. There are at the least three judgements against you in Virginia. There are multiple liens against you in Virginia. These are the facts. All of which may be proven by intense research in the Fairfax County Court System. Further investigation in the court system will yield facts showing her bouncing checks (which I must say in her defense were settled) I'm sure some of us have bounced a check but to have to go to court, numerous times, to settle these charges? These "one or two" unhappy members, former employees, current employees, and contractors have grown to numbers where there may be criminal charges filed against you.

You claim 6,000 members at $60 a piece....that's $360,000.00!!! Wow that's a lot of money for a business that bounces checks or refuses to pay any of the judgements or liens against you. I'm sure the Internal Revenue Service would like to see some of that loot.

How can you have a warrant for your arrest in New York if the "alleged" charges were never proven? I've never heard of anyone who had to pay a fine for being not guilty.

Has anyone heard of an organization called The Better Business Bureau? They say that this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau due to unanswered complaints concerning refund practices and selling practices. Hmmm. I'm seeing the pattern. Are you?

I also find it ironic that there is so much negative publicity about the former GGO and of you personally. I ask , where are the 6000 members who are so fond your "alleged" company? How come the only positive responses came from a guy named Kenneth Kay or the great EBAY responses from 18 sales? Is it that you just can't find enough time to think of poorly thought out responses?

Look, I can go on and on but the fact of the matter is you are a LOSER. The walls are coming down on you hard and you don't have a leg, website, company , or 6000 members to stand on. The great thing is this is all over the World Wide Web, to follow you wherever you try and scam, take advantage or cheat people. You are a fraud and I can say that without conviction.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at March 27, 2004 02:16 PM

Dear Farrah,

The jig is up. This isn't cute any more, really. Pay us already. Oh, and also, stop "accidentally" calling us. That's just creepy. Really, we ALL want to move on and get you as far out of our minds and lives as possible, just like you want us to leave you alone. So it's totally mutual, and YOU can fix it. Oh, and when you DO pay us, because there is no "if," you WILL pay, make sure the checks don't bounce.

Cash or cashier's check. Thanks.
Noelle

Posted by: Noelle at April 3, 2004 04:34 PM

Dear Farrah,

The jig is up. This isn't cute any more, really. Pay us already. Oh, and also, stop "accidentally" calling. That's just creepy. Really, we ALL want to move on and get you as far out of our minds and lives as possible, just like you want us to leave you alone. So it's totally mutual, and YOU can fix it. Oh, and when you DO pay us, because there is no "if," you WILL pay, make sure the checks don't bounce.

Cash or cashier's check. Thanks.
Noelle

Posted by: Noelle at April 3, 2004 04:34 PM

Dear Farrah,

The jig is up. This isn't cute any more, really. Pay us already. Oh, and also, stop "accidentally" calling. That's just creepy. Really, we ALL want to move on and get you as far out of our minds and lives as possible, just like you want us to leave you alone. So it's totally mutual, and YOU can fix it. Oh, and when you DO pay us, because there is no "if," you WILL pay, make sure the checks don't bounce.

Cash or cashier's check. Thanks.
Noelle

Posted by: Noelle at April 3, 2004 04:35 PM

Woops, didn't mean to post that three times.... Then agaaaiiin.... Maybe Farrah will actually get the point after having to read it over and over again. Once or three times-- The writing's on the wall: Farah has to pay up.

Posted by: Noelle again at April 3, 2004 04:44 PM

Farrah won't be responding to these posts because she is a loser. The more she opens her lying mouth, the deeper she puts her foot in it. The evidence is piling up and I can only hope that the next time we hear of girlsgoingout is when her and the other inmates have their recreation time in the yard.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 4, 2004 10:37 AM

It is sad to see so many people jumping on this malicious band wagon being completely ignorant of the truth. First, and foremost, Mr. Leiby's article was a lie filled, malicious exaggeration at best of the truth of farrah and GGO. The fact that he calls his column "The Reliable Source" couldn't be more ironic and hypocritical. April Fried-Vandecamp, 36, was the first "source" cited in the article...even after Looking at her disgusting, atrocity of a website and digging into her history of mental illness, it’s still hard to see why a 36 year old woman would dedicate her time to hurting someone who she considered a "good friend" only months ago. I feel sorry for her child, who has to be raised by a mentally unstable, pathetic, sexual deviant who spends more time creating pornographic websites than with her own child...She, like any other contractor with a gripe, need only answer Ms. Ashline's challenge of meeting to discuss any grievance, not lie and bash her....While there are contractors with proof of employment, April is not one of them, but rather a jealous mentally unstable woman, that wanted to be a partner, but was passed over...

Deborah Atkins, 47 was cited in the article for not receiving a new member packet after being sent one 3 times. This same woman was involved in another mail fraud case! Sound familiar? Nice research...

Noelle, there NEVER was a warrant for Farrah's arrest. That, like most of Mr. Leiby's column was completely false. Do all of the research you like on the matter, any would be more than Mr. Leiby.

That fact, along with the negligent printing of people's opinions and unresearched lies just goes to show that Mr. Lieby had an agenda. To cast Ms. Ashline in the most negative light, regardless of the truth, or both sides of any portion of the story.

If you are a former contactor and feel you have a legitimate gripe, take Farrah up on her challenge. The rest of you, particularly Ms. Fried-Vandecamp should be ashamed of yourselves...

P.S. To Innocent Bystander, supposeof is a word. But you didn't take the time to run it through spell check, and check your sources....Just goes to show how ignorant and lazy you have been...maybe you can get a job at the Washington Post...

Posted by: Supporter of the Truth at April 5, 2004 06:13 AM

Dear "Supporter of the Truth"

You call April a mental case (which is completely untrue as she is a lovely woman and dedicated mother) and claim that we are all disgruntled employees. I wish you would open your eyes to the real truth-- what we are saying here about Farrah and GGO is COMPLETELY true. I sued Farrah in Fairfax courts and won my case- that can be proved. Farrah uses tricks and lies on her employees and frequently leaves them screwed over for any sort of law suit. While I could prove that I was an employee and was up on the website Farrah put me off EVERYDAY about my contract. You have to understand the power she can have over an employee (especially someone like me who at the time was just out of college and so excited for this new opportunity.) When I asked Farrah when I was going to fill out my W-4 (or is it W-2) form she then finally told me I was an independent contractor and in a way it was as if she was my employee and I was the boss. (What a load of bull!)(Please note that she did NOT tell me about the whole independent contractor thing at either one of my two interviews with her... it was not until after I accepted the job and was working for her for two days that she finally told me about that) I worked for her for just over 3 weeks thinking that when she would say we would do my contract "tomorrow", we really would do it tomorrow. Now I feel like such a fool. I have lost several thousand dollars due to this entire fiasco (she owes me over $2000, I was then unemployeed after I finally got up the courage to leave her job, not to mention that the 3 weeks I worked for her I had expenses without bringing in income--despite the very large salary Farrah promised me) *Note I said salary, not hourly wage* Farrah calls her employees independent contractors but in fact the work she has most of them do (like myself as her personal assistant/executive assistant) falls under the status of a "real" full-time employee. Supporter, I wonder where you got your information about Farrah? You say she is innocent and these are all lies... what proof do you have to support that claim? Were you ever an employee who actually got paid? How well do you know the business side of Girlsgoingout and Womagazine? How do you know Farrah at all? Do you have any sort of proof to your claims that she is the innocent one and it is really us ex-employees who are the guilty party?


To everyone out there who reads these posts (mostly ex-employees who already know what I am saying) please understand that we are not simply crazed disgruntled employees. We are real people with lives that have been gravely effected due to our situation with Farrah. We believed in her and her idea and for that she took advantage of us. Farrah wants to be a reputable business woman but in order to do that you must follow the first cardinal rule of business- if you hire an employee you have to pay them, sometimes you pay your employees before you even pay yourself. Employees first: boss/ceo second.

Posted by: Candy at April 5, 2004 09:07 AM

the only good thing about ggo was the guy writing the hispoint columns. it appeared that his columns started to turn on ggo and then he was replaced and then the site went belly-up.

Posted by: ergon spitz at April 5, 2004 10:51 AM

This seems to be the typical type of hysteria that ensues after Leiby's gossip column. If I am understanding things correctly, it seems a small group of women are angry at Farrah for some contractual negotiations that went South and (and I state this with limited omniscience) perhaps a bit of jealousy. Why is this a story? And why is Farrah's personal history relevant?

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 5, 2004 12:51 PM

None of this is rocket science, just keeping the populace informed:

Name: firefly.fnord.net
Address: 207.96.1.105
Aliases: www.oneill.net
Name: firefly.fnord.net
Address: 207.96.1.105
Aliases: karma.fnord.net

name: clayton o'neill
domain: oneill.net
organization: O'Neill Enterprises
email: hostmaster@oneill.net
address: 4027 Stonehenge Way
city: Fairfax
telephone: 703-691-3232
billing-c: coneill@oneill.net

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 5, 2004 02:07 PM

We play things fast and loose in these comment sections, and that's how I like it. But I can't stand for this: "P.S. To Innocent Bystander, supposeof is a word. But you didn't take the time to run it through spell check, and check your sources....Just goes to show how ignorant and lazy you have been...maybe you can get a job at the Washington Post..." What the fuck?

Posted by: Matt at April 5, 2004 05:34 PM

>>


See, the thing is, You had a choice, right? Yet you still whored yourself out, correct?

Or did the police lie too, along with every woman who is "against" you..

If you know there are so many legit gripes, why are you not paying up?

How come you didn't pay your employees, I am curious of this? You write these lengthy rebuttals but they are just a bunch of air as to why you did what you did and why you just did not pay up?

If you do not like what is up there and said about you, then why don't you simply say so, pay up and apologize.

I do not think anyone cares about GGO now. And I would think with all the successful women you say you have hired ( and they must have had some credibility in order for you to take them on)
why now are all these stories out there?

Jealousy? I highly doubt that, I don't think anyone wants to be in your shoes.

Everyone likes to sleep at night, and have a good conceince. Apparently, you do not.

Posted by: take no prisioners at April 5, 2004 05:58 PM

Farrah
These disgruntled ex-employees don't seem to really want to deal with you personally so how about posting you attorney's name, address and phone numbers?

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 5, 2004 05:59 PM

Farrah, Raoul, or whatever you're calling yourself --

I post this here because you seem to be monitoring this particular forum.

A lot of people say they have sued you for thousands of dollars, they allege that you have failed to pay them for products provided or services rendered; mistreated them on the job; or failed to provide membership materials for GirlsGointOut.com. These allegations are either true or false, but they are nonetheless all allegations about the way that you conduct business.

In response, you claim that there are a series of misunderstandings here, that some of these people have made false claims against you, and that you are dealing with only a few disgruntled individuals. Above all, you claim you are a successful professional.

I don't think anybody would hold it against a successful professional if that person were sued once or twice (or more often) in her lifetime. After all, even the most successful of people encounter disputes in the course of doing business. However, the true test of a professional is not in how that person conducts business in the ordinary course of events, or even the number of crises and disputes that professional faces. Rather, the true test of a professional's bearing and character is found in how that individual deals with those disputes.

However, your response to this crisis has been less than professional. You very quickly shed your pretense at reasonableness. Under your own name, you offer rambling, incoherent descriptions of "your side" of this dispute. Either you or your proxies have chosen to hide behind pseudonyms and offer potentially defamatory comments about one of the individuals who has a dispute with you. Is this the behavior of a successful professional?

If there is a misunderstandings, a professional would seek to correct that misunderstandings as quickly as possible. By all accounts, you have failed to do so.

If there is a dispute, a professional would either confront the dispute and admit error, or else fight the dispute in the courts and in negotiations to reach a solution. By all accounts, you have failed to do so.

If there is a problem with image, a professional would seek to correct that image problem as quickly as possible, before it can fester and destroy her reputation. You have failed to do so.

If a professional has debts, a professional would either contest those debts in a court of law or with her creditors or engage her creditors in a dialogue to settle those debts as quickly as possible. By all accounts, you have failed to do so.

Farrah, you hold yourself forth as an example for other businesswomen. You want the world to believe that you are the consummate professional. But your behavior in these disputes belies that conceit.

Instead, your actions in the face of this crisis foster the image of an incoherent, demanding, child who does not understand how adults conduct business. This image reflects poorly on you. How are you going to change it?

--JH

Posted by: James Hertsch at April 5, 2004 06:48 PM

I am not Farrah Ashline. And I doubt she reads this forum anymore, as it seems to be saturated with the same people saying the same things ad nauseum.

What's most interesting about this whole story is the great lengths to which people have gone to defame Farrah's character: her eBay feedback, interest in vintage clothing, pictures with drag queens, filings about her residences, Craigslist postings, Rachel Ludwig's class action lawsuit (which according to another ex-GGO employee, no lawyer wants to touch), April Fried-Vandecamp's silly banter, etc. None of this has anything to do with Farrah's allegedly poor/illegal contractual practices.

It seems that this story is a lethargic exercise in sensationalism.

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 5, 2004 08:18 PM

To Raoul Ancarra:

You're absolutely right. I don't care about her positive and/or negative eBay feedback. I don't care about pictures of her with drag queens. I don't care about roommate disputes, and all other mud-slinging.

None of that is really my business, nor what I care about. What is my concern, HOWEVER, is getting paid. As I pointed out, as soon as a fair business exchange is made, we can ALL get out of each other's lives. And THAT, my friend, is the real point.

Posted by: Noelle at April 6, 2004 12:17 AM

PS--

"Supporter of the Truth": I don't recall ever mentioning anything about Farrah and warrants. I reiterate-- that has NOTHING to do with me or the issue at hand, whether they exist or not. I'm even going to give her the benefit of the doubt-- if there are no warrants, fine, whatever. I *REALLY* don't care about Farrah's personal life. But I do care about mine. Honestly, I just want to get paid.

Posted by: Noelle at April 6, 2004 12:34 AM

The sad thing IS that Farrah has brought more of her personal life into her business life.

Endless emails about how she needs to go out of town, all kind of cover up's behind the firewall so to speak at GGO, no one truly CARED about her personal life. No one. We all wanted to write, do some good for women, and have a good time.

As we all do as humans, we get in the way of our own goals. I think that was Farrahs problem in business practices.

It all GOT WAY TOO PERSONAL.

I agree with Noelle that it all revolves around business practices and all pertaining to.

If she allowed her personal life to influence those and hurt others -- that is her problem

I could care less if she had weird sex orgies, I know lots of people who have-- that is her thing.. or even if she was a protstitute! Who cares.

I just feel the truth will prevail, it always does and Karma is a bitch.

Farrah said she is so disappointed in all of us, and how I particularly have "turned out to be a real disappointment"

I am a writer. Period. Grammar error, punctuation and all. That was my common bond with Farrah.

Yes she was my friend-- and I tried very hard to stay out of things, and stay on the back burner but yet, it is hard to stay silent when so many are getting hurt.

My quote seemed to have fueled a fire in Farrah, when I was just stating the truth.

I was hoping, it would have been great, actually, If she would have come up to the plate to face the people who have claims...

I hope she can turn it around into something and make lemons out of this lemonade.

Deal with it. Rip off that bandaid already and just get it over with.
It s become a game of "Catch me if you can" and it's old already..


Posted by: sad thing is at April 6, 2004 10:23 AM

Looks to me like you are more like a blatherer than a writer. It's no matter Farrah fired you and withheld your paycheck.

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 7, 2004 09:49 AM

Farrah,

Stick to prostitution, at least then people know they’re getting fucked!

Another blatherererererererer

Posted by: Hey Raoul . . . I mean Farrah at April 7, 2004 10:04 AM

Well there you go!! Another admittance of guilt. It is against the law for anyone to withhold a paycheck. No matter the reason. Dumb ass.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 7, 2004 02:50 PM

You are so stupid you're funny!!

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 7, 2004 02:52 PM

Funny Farrah never fired anyone I know of...
every one bailed on her sorry ass.
That indeed is a misconception.

Including me.

She did not pay people cause she is a liar and a crook and broke.

She is messing with the wrong people and WILL Pay for it in a court of law.


Posted by: girls getting paid at April 7, 2004 04:24 PM

[Offensive URL to porn site posted by anonymous commenter removed by withers.]


I am curious who put this page up, I think its pretty sick, even for one who doesnt like farrah... I she must have done something pretty bad to someone to do this????

wow. shocking.

pretty sick people. But i guess this is the kind of people farrah deals with,

gross!

Posted by: casual observer at April 7, 2004 04:32 PM

I guess its someone living in the ukraine... or registering a domain to hide from porn crimes.


Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.abcdns.net ns2.abcdns.net

Administrator:
Perekopska 20
Kherson
Kherson,
Ukraine
73000

name:(Vitaliy Korshinskiy)
mail:(alan@sitesfree.net) 380552241034
Vitaliy Korshinskiy
Technical Contactor:
Perekopska 20
Kherson
Kherson,
Ukraine
73000

name:(Vitaliy Korshinskiy)
mail:(alan@sitesfree.net) 380552241034
Vitaliy Korshinskiy
Billing Contactor:
Perekopska 20
Kherson
Kherson,
Ukraine
73000

name:(Vitaliy Korshinskiy)
mail:(alan@sitesfree.net) 380552241034
Vitaliy Korshinskiy

Posted by: casual observer at April 7, 2004 04:35 PM

How do you plan on pursuing these matters in a court of law when, according to conversations with a number of ex-GGO women, no lawyers are interested in taking the case? Perhaps Kangaroo Court will handle this? It sounds to me like Farrah Ashline has won even before this imaginary trial has begun.

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 7, 2004 04:38 PM

You dolt, the rape site is obviously using the popularity of "Farrah Ashline" as a search term to lure traffic. There are companies that specialise in obtaining and selling information like this.

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 7, 2004 04:47 PM

Hey Raoul, you stupid and ignorant ass. Do you even know what a judgment is? Are you even aware that there are at least 3 judgments issued against her? That means people have gone to court, saw a judge and the judge, you dolt, issued the judgments against Farrah. Damn you are stupid.
That doesn’t include the many ex-ggo employees that have now come out and decided to file their own complaints. Thanks to the few who have already done so! Their knowledge and experience in the system is helping those just starting with this judicial process. Grow up, wake up, and get out of here Raoul. You have no clue what is happening in the Virginia, Maryland, and DC court systems . . . . as we speak.
Trust me Raoul; those who have taken a serious approach toward recovering their legitimate claims know that that rape site has nothing to do with Farrah. They are much wiser than you think.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 7, 2004 05:44 PM

Oh please, no such judgements exist. And your case against Farrah holds no weight. Let's move on with more important matters, thanks.

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 7, 2004 07:17 PM

No judgments exist?
Case #: S03-349
Case #: 377663


Posted by: Rachel at April 7, 2004 08:00 PM

No judgments exist?
Case #: S03-349
Case #: 377663


Posted by: Rachel at April 7, 2004 08:01 PM

Your falsified numbers are meaningless to this forum. Obviously personal integrity is not part of your value system. Let's stick with the truth and move on. We all appreciate it.

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 7, 2004 10:16 PM

Raoul:

Are you Farrah? If so, then you need to address these judgments against you directly. Are you in contact with Farrah? If so, then you need to ask her to address these judgments against her.

--JH

Posted by: James Hertsch at April 7, 2004 11:24 PM

Raoul must be Farrah because the half assed effort put into researching those case numbers is so similar to Farrah's half assed effort towards life. Do your research, fool, and heed Mr. Hertsch's advice.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 8, 2004 07:16 AM

Your incessant insistence that I am Farrah Ashline is hackneyed at this point. And lobbing silly insults has proved ineffective. Perhaps you should show us the goods on these alleged cases (rather than cite case numbers which does few of us any good without Westlaw access)?

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 8, 2004 10:01 AM

Mr. Ancarra:
I have no idea whether you are Farrah Ashline or not. However, you seem to be her lone defender. This implies either that 1) You are Farrah Ashline, or 2) You are acting as her proxy in this venue.

Either way, it appears that arguments directed at Ms. Ashline must, by necessity, be addressed to you.

--JH

Posted by: James Hertsch at April 8, 2004 10:08 AM

Raoul, you speak of integrity, but you have none and you lack creditability.

It’s not rocket science, no need for Westlaw, here is the legwork, and the “goods” requested:

My cases are far from false:

- Contact the DC Superior Court of the District of Columbia at 202-879-1120 and refer to small claims number 18232-02.

- The above mentioned has been issued triple certificate and transferred to the Fairfax County, Circuit Court Division, Judgment number: 377663, and that direct dial is 703-246-4159.

- Case number S03-349 for a check returned for NSF: Insufficient Funds. Judge Mark Simons of the Fairfax County Court system thought well enough in my favor, regardless of Ashline’s absence. Please call 703-246-3012 and refer to case number S03-349. Although a garnishment of wages was attempted, “it was returned to the courts for lack of funds.”

Need more goods? This is public information, and I will have more to follow:

Case #: GC01016604-000 Misdemeanor
File Date: 8/30/01 Issuing Bad Checks $200 Offense Date: 2/17/01
Arrest Date: 8/29/01 Defendant Status: Released on Recognizance
HEARING 09/14/01
Fine/Cost Due: 10/19/01 PAID: 02/22/02
Final Disposition: Dismissed

Case #: GC01016605-00 Misdemeanor
File Date: 8/30/01 Issuing Bad Checks $200 Offense Date: 2/28/01
Arrest Date: 8/29/01 Defendant Status: Released on Recognizance
HEARING 09/14/01
Fine/Cost Due: 10/19/01 PAID: 02/22/02
Final Disposition: Dismissed

Case #: GC00014384-00 Felony
File date: 07/27/00 Utter Bad Check Offense Date: 06/21/99
Arrest Date: 07/26/00 Defendant Status: Released on Recognizance
HEARING 09/20/01
Final Disposition: Dismissed
Amended Charge: Bad Check – Misdemeanor

And you question MY personal integrity. . . .

Posted by: Rachel Ludwig at April 8, 2004 11:21 AM

To Raoul,

I am one of Farrah's ex-employees who has not been paid. I attempted to contact several lawyers and they did not want the case. They did not want the case NOT because it was not valid but because it would gather them little money and they would need to spend many hours on the case. I repeat they did not take the case because it would not be profitable and like everyone else lawyers are in the business of making money. I had a family friend who was a lawyer contact Farrah on my behalf and Farrah not only flat out lied to him but upon this very reputable VA lawyer (he works for a VERY large firm that normally deals with clients who have millions of dollars) telling Farrah that what she is doing is very illegal she hung up the phone on him. He gave me the necessary information to pursue my case on my own. As I said early, he was willing to contact her and write her a letter giving her a deadline to pay me but he would not pursue it in the courts for me because of the "small" monetary amount. I did pursue the case in the Fairfax courts on my own and won my case. (Farrah didn't even show up once for our court dates despite sending in continuance excuses) This is a FACT that I won my court case and am owed money by Farrah Ashline/Girlsgoingout.com for the work I performed in Aug-Sept 2003. Farrah never once said she was unhappy with my work, in fact she frequently told others that we worked with that I did a good job as well as telling me that she was pleased with my performance. Even IF she was unhappy with me, I still did what she asked and legally am supposed to be paid the salary she hired me for. Everyday I asked Farrah about my contract and was told that today wasn't a good day and we would do it tomorrow. I stupidly believed her- regardless we still had an oral contact which is legally binding. This is how Farrah is able to say that ex-employees don't work for her-- she does not do contacts with them and they believe her when she says they will do the contract "tomorrow." Throughout this entire ordeal I have been threatened and harassed from Farrah and others (who may be Farrah, may be friends of hers, or people like you who simply believe that us ex-employees are wackos) I stayed silent for awhile out of fear. Dozens (if not into the hundreds) of women have been conned by Farrah and its just a shame that when people do come forward they are not only not believed but also being threatened and harassed. We can not go backwards in time and change the past, (although nearly every ex-employee I have talked to would like nothing more than to have never met her or accepted her job offer) all we can do is move forward and hope to stop the cycle from continuing.

Posted by: Candy at April 8, 2004 12:35 PM

When I interviewed with Farrah -- she said she is starting a gay male escort site which will be used to fun her GGO operations and WO Magazine. I thought this was interesting considering her major problem with the world "was exploitation of women". But then why get involved in a gay porn site?

Farrah is not the brightest bulb on the tree. Her web sites were poorly designed and poorly written. Plus, her business ideas were way behind the times.. I mean RRRIOT Girls? Wasn't that '90 and '91. Magazine editors need to be current, but it hasn't occurred to Farrah that there is a post-feminist movement going on... She should have played up her prostituation and her deceptions.. now, that would have been popular.

Posted by: Farrahisnotsmart at April 8, 2004 12:45 PM

Finally, after my incessant prodding, someone has posted something halfway worth reading. It took almost two weeks for someone to cough up a reasonable shred of evidence other than sob stories and ancedotes of catty bitterness. So obviously Ms. Ludwig, who I venture to guess was masquerading behind "girlsgoingunder", has had some success. But where does April Whatshernuts fit in this story?

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 8, 2004 12:58 PM

I am Rachel Ludwig, and only post as such.

The evidence (call it a sob story or catty) is all the evidence any intellectual person needs to draw their own conclusion. Lacking standard common sense however, I had to S-P-E-L-L out what is already on the books.

I can vouch for April, Candy, Noelle (and dozens more that will come out in due time) that their stories are true, and Ashline is responsible for some serious damages.

All the persons that have posted and continue to post, are serious in their claims. They leave real names, email addresses, and are not hiding anything. YOU however, I question considerably. With no real email address, rude comments towards others, arguable and bias rebuttals- all sound very. . . A-S-S-H-L-I-N-E.

What is your involvement anyway?

Are you the unsung hero - a personality of Ashline - a satisfied client? Who is masquerading behind Raoul?

Please, do tell.

Rachel Ludwig

Posted by: Rachel Ludwig at April 8, 2004 02:03 PM

Raoul

I am not Rachel Ludwig. I am a friend of hers for many years.

Now, Rachel has answerd your inquiries. Hell, she pratically had to dialed them for you. How about you answer her inquiries?

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 8, 2004 04:39 PM

Rachel, April, girlsgoingunder, anotherclevernicknamebysometopsecretperson, whatever.

I am Raoul Ancarra. I am an acquaintance of Farrah's who thinks: [a] her unsavory business practices do not merit the quantity and quality of abuse that has arisen from a gaggle of women (many without sound minds) jealous of her success and [b] she was unfairly crucified by Richard Leiby.

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 8, 2004 09:11 PM

Raoul,

What exactly do Farrah's unsavory business practices merit if not people coming out into the open with the truth? You don't deny that she had them -- why would you allow her to continue with them. A true friend, or acquaintance who is willing to put out his name and email on the line for someone, should also be willing to give some real advice. Running from these problems is not making her, or you through her, look good.

If you're serious about Farrah not deserving to have the truth about her written up on the internet, why don't you come forward with who you really are?

Posted by: Jeanne Casey at April 8, 2004 10:48 PM

Raoul,

I find it interesting that you have choosen not to address me but rather to talk negatively about Rachel and April. (I worked with April while working for Farrah and GGO and have spoken with Rachel several times) I can only assume that you do not address me directly because you do not want to admit that what I have written about my experience working with Farrah and in the court system is 100% valid and true. You say that you an acquantance of hers? (Why not use the word friend? are you two not that close?) If you are not very close with her then you must be willing to conceed that there is much about her and her business that you do not know about. Simply knowing her as an acquantance does not give you enough information about her business and the way she treats her employees. I recenly was contacted by another acquantice of Farrah's. After long conversations with this person he finally came to the conclusion that he was wrong about Farrah and in fact even apologized for all the wrongs she has done to me personally and to others. (Not that he was involved in any of it, it was merely a sincere gesture)

Secondly, I wish you would stop thinking that we are jealous of Farrah. NO ONE is jealous of her. Jealous of her business? That's an even bigger joke. Her business does not make any money and is failing. She relies on lies and deception to get people to work for her and does not fulfill her part of the deal with business she "partners" with. The fact that all of these employees are coming forward should only add to the facts that she is NOT a savy business woman.

I can not understand why you do not open your eyes and see the truth about Farrah and her business(es).

Posted by: Candy at April 9, 2004 01:08 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen,
We don't have to address Raoul anymore. As he already said, and as Candy pointed out, he is a mere aquaintance of Farrah's. We don't have to explain, or show any more evidence to him proving why Farrah is a crook. He "holds no weight" in this matter.

What we all want is for Farrah to get off her back and address the judgements issued and those that will be forthcoming.
So Farrah,
Once again, plese post your attorney's name, address, and phone numbers.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 9, 2004 03:25 PM

Below is a link to an archived version of Farrah Ashline's old massage business:
http://tinyurl.com/2xasy
Notice the telephone at the bottom of the advertisement: 703-655-3206.

Below is a link to the results when 703-655-3206 is searched by Google:
http://tinyurl.com/26fvj
Notice a number of the results point to the defunct URL: http://www.dc-exotics.com/ads/esco/runoe434.htm
The currect URL should be: http://www.dc-exotics.com/linkad.htm?esco/runoe434.htm

"I have never solicited for sex and no one has solicited me for sex."

Posted by: GirlsGoingOutofBusiness at April 14, 2004 10:53 PM

Fan-fucking-tastic!

Posted by: GirlsBlowingBusiness at April 15, 2004 12:47 PM

I keep thinking the comments posted that support Farrah are submitted by Farrah herself or one of her multiple personalities. I wouldn't be surprised if "Raoul" is one of the many people inside her head.

Posted by: ExploitedbyFarrah at April 15, 2004 08:20 PM

Farrah Saraphina Raoul Ashline! Hehe
She is really such a joke at this point I don't know why we continue with these posts. Well, it is funny as hell to see her kissing that ugly cat in her baby doll massage site.
Good bye Farrah, you loser.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 15, 2004 08:42 PM

Really though, I'm not Farrah.

Posted by: Raoul Ancarra at April 15, 2004 08:44 PM

I wouldn't want to be Farrah at this point either!!!

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 15, 2004 08:47 PM

anyone who wants more facts about farrah and how she truly is contact me at efunk066@yahoo.com. I was very close to her, not just as an employee, but as a friend.

Posted by: truthaboutfarrah at April 16, 2004 09:54 AM

Quite enough of this, I would think. Sorry to disagree with everybody, but I don't think that dragging Ms. Ashline's extracurriculars into the debate really helps to get judgments satisfied.

Posted by: James Hertsch at April 16, 2004 10:52 AM

i like farrah. she was very beautiful on the outside. On the inside, she was very manipulative and a con-artist. She would always ask me to perform some kind of project for her and would promise me to pay me. At first, she was good about paying me, sometimes late, but at least she paid me. What I didn't like is that she treated me like a slave, adding more and more work, while offering no compensation. Everything changed when she asked me to borrow $400. I lent her the money on the condition that I was repaid in two weeks. As with everyone else, I called numerous times. Whenever she answered, it was not a good time. If she did talk to me, she was very rude, or would just hang up. Eventually, she threatened legal action against me for harrasment. Finally, after two months, she finally paid me. I could go on about a few mor jobs I did for her that she never paid me for, but I think you get the idea. Who would have thought that a person who ran their own nude massage parlor out of their house would not be good for the money. Once again, if you want more indepth details about our favorite friend, email me at efunk066@yahoo.com. I promise that all information given is nothing but the truth.

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Posted by: WorkingWomen at April 16, 2004 11:35 AM

Some may say that those posts for the massages are not Farrah--- but they would be wrong. While the pictures are not of her, she did and probably still does do naked massages (usually with a "happy ending") For the post that had a contact of Playmatefun@aol.com that is one of her screen names. When I worked for her and had to use the computer, the only internet access she had was through aol. I would usually have to sign on as a guest but in order to do that as many aol users know you have to scroll down where the screen names are listed. While I do not remember every screen name besides Goobiebabybutt and Girlsgoingout I DEFINETLY remember that Playmatefun was listed under her screen names. In a way some of us should could ourselves lucky because I spoke to one ex-employee whom Farrah locked in the small side "office" (the room where that big table was and all her purses on the wall) Apparently Farrah got freaked out awhile back after she read some stories about people in her line of work who were attacked, so she locked this assistant in the small room and told her not to make any noise so the client would not know Farrah had someone else in the house. Farrah apparently left this poor woman locked in that room for over 2 hours! She's such a wacko, but it's sad that she can only really make any money by taking her clothes off and demeaning herself- which goes against everything she and girlsgoingout supposedly stand for.

Posted by: Eww Farrah'sGross at April 16, 2004 02:24 PM

Some may say that those posts for the massages are not Farrah--- but they would be wrong. While the pictures are not of her, she did and probably still does do naked massages (usually with a "happy ending") For the post that had a contact of Playmatefun@aol.com that is one of her screen names. When I worked for her and had to use the computer, the only internet access she had was through aol. I would usually have to sign on as a guest but in order to do that as many aol users know you have to scroll down where the screen names are listed. While I do not remember every screen name besides Goobiebabybutt and Girlsgoingout I DEFINETLY remember that Playmatefun was listed under her screen names. In a way some of us should could ourselves lucky because I spoke to one ex-employee whom Farrah locked in the small side "office" (the room where that big table was and all her purses on the wall) Apparently Farrah got freaked out awhile back after she read some stories about people in her line of work who were attacked, so she locked this assistant in the small room and told her not to make any noise so the client would not know Farrah had someone else in the house. Farrah apparently left this poor woman locked in that room for over 2 hours! She's such a wacko, but it's sad that she can only really make any money by taking her clothes off and demeaning herself- which goes against everything she and girlsgoingout supposedly stand for.

Posted by: Eww Farrah'sGross at April 16, 2004 02:24 PM

No surprise but the telephone number in the "escort" advertisement (703-855-4195) belongs to Farrah Ashline. I wish the dirtbag @ the Washington Post had this information before he ran his story...Mommy come quick, the dreaming tree has died!

Posted by: GirlsGoingDownOnMe@girlsgoingout.com at April 16, 2004 04:30 PM

Well it looks like Farrah has taken my advice. She seems to be packing up and moving to a quaint little house in Bowie MD. She's having an "estate" sale today in Fairfax. Too bad she already sold her soul. I can only hope that she is trying to raise money to pay off the judgements but I doubt it.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 17, 2004 12:15 PM

Apparently she's moving to Bowie to be closer to the airport...makes one wonder...

Posted by: GirlsGoingToBankruptcyProceedings at April 19, 2004 11:49 AM


Quotes from Farrah Ashline:

"Just in case you've still not been suckered into believing every little ounce you read and see".

Well, late last year I was suckered into designing and creating the first edition of WOMagazine.com for Farrah, the invoice for which has remained unpaid since Nov 6th 2003.

"Needless to say, the commentary will not stop my purpose which is to forge forward in providing one of the most amazing web sites for women yet to come by April. There is a lot of real work to be done."

Yes, and none of that work done by Farrah, I suspect - but perhaps another talented designer who is a mug for her manipulative sob stories.

This woman is a disgrace to women.

Phil Thompson
Director: Cenobyte.biz

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 22, 2004 02:43 AM

P.S. in case there is any doubt to the authenticity of my claims of being WO's "duped" designer, I have uploaded the entire site to my test server at...

http://www.zoolagoon.com/womagazine

Where it shall remain for the forseeable future - the STAFF page might be of particular interest to those who claimed they worked on the Site (yet now have those claims dismissed).

And no, before some fool says this is a "copy" - this kind of site only runs if you have the original source code and cannot be simply "archived" by a visitor.

Oh, and as I have not been paid for any of this work by Ms.Ashline, (as have none of the writers to my knowledge), it legally remains our property. So it will remain online, no matter how much of a thorn in the side of Ms.Ashline it may prove to be.

Oh dear.

Enjoy.

P.S. I'm afraid I can't provide the old GGO site - I had nothing to do with it. (And bloody awful it was, too).

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 22, 2004 03:59 AM

I am one of the writers whose article was published on the original WO on-line magazine. There were nothing but promises made by Farrah Ashline, and promises that's all there was. To this day I have not seen a contract, nor have I been paid for my work. I hereby declare that I retain All Rights to all of my work ever submitted to Farrah Ashline, published or not. Furthermore, I disassociate myself and my work from Farrah Ashline, her enterprises, and her fraudulent activities.

Monika Rice
Writer
Infinite Life Expression

Posted by: Monika Rice at April 22, 2004 08:37 AM

Phil and Monika,

I am glad to see you two have found this post, and if nothing else at least you have "come forward" here to further prove what others have been saying: for years now, Farrah has been hiring people, putting off contracts, and in general using and abusing them without ever paying the employees one penny. I personally believe that Farrah never has any intention of paying ANY of her employees but rather just gets everything she can out of them. It makes me feel sick to believe that she feels SHE is the victim and the one who has been wronged. Monika, I do not know about you because I think dealing with writers for a site is more difficult legally, but Phil, I believe you can sue Farrah with all the documentation you have even if you she never did a written contract with you. (Verbal contracts are held up in court) On a side note, if you both try to sue (which I reccommend even though the road is long and bumpy) you most likely will need to directly sue Farrah as opposed to GGO or WO. One reason for this, is aside from them being her businesses, (CEO, President, owner, etc.) it appears that GGO (and therefore I assume Wo) is not a real business. I appears from the research I have conducted that GGO is not a real business with a business ID number, tax id number, and all that jazz that goes along with setting up a business. (And therefore if going to court you need to sue Farrah directly otherwise there is no method to collect on your settlement) Should I be wrong about this I hope that someone will come forward with this information, but I think I'm right and they are not even real businesses. Just another way that Farrah pulled the wool over our eyes and is able to cover her own ass legally. Best of luck to you both and I hope that your dealings with Farrah did not leave you in as bad of a place as some other former employees.

Candy

Posted by: Candy at April 22, 2004 09:03 AM


http://www.washingtonian.com/thismonth/class/health.html

Scroll down to A TANTRIC AWAKENING - does that sound familiar?

Posted by: tralala at April 22, 2004 03:45 PM


TELEPHONE (703) 855-4195

Posted by: tralala at April 22, 2004 03:48 PM


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Posted by: tralala at April 22, 2004 04:02 PM

Candy,

Thank you for your posting in reply to mine – when something bad happens there is always great comfort to be taken from the fact that you are not the only one.

A few comments on some points made above;

. No, I did not have a formal contract with Farrah Ashline for creating the WOMagazine.com site – I have worked freelance for many years and am happy to engage in contracts if requested to do so, but normally business comes to me through word of mouth from existing clients – and my reputation of “fair play” means that in most cases formal contracts have been unnecessary – I have always quoted in advance, done the work, and been paid promptly by delighted customers. Hence I did not request such a contract from Farrah, and none was offered me by her. And in over ten years of working in this industry, this is the first time I have been unpaid in this way.

· The lack of “standard contract” Farrah has referred to as an excuse for non-payment of employees is, to a degree irrelevant in my case. As you have pointed out, verbal contracts are legally binding – but in addition to that, as I live in the UK – all correspondence regarding the site was conducted between Farrah and myself via email – and I still have every one she has sent - from her initial introduction, through her requests for me to undertake the project (and various other sites she would like me to do), through to detailed instructions for the site, through to her remarks on how delighted she was with the standard of my work, through to her requests to me to invoice her for monies due, through to excuses and empty promises to pay me the money she owed me (in which she also states the monetary amount she fully admits she owes me). All of these emails have “message header” information that can be used by relevant authorities to trace each email directly back to her personal AOL account. In other words, I have irrefutable, black and white, in her own words, documentary evidence that I was hired, did the work to a standard she was delighted with, and was never paid.

I am not a disgruntled employee involved in some kind of “vendetta” – simply someone who has also been treated very badly – and I have made this information public in the hope of preventing others being manipulated in the future. The shame of it is, I actually liked Farrah very much, and believed in her and her project – had she told me that she had no money to pay for my work in advance I would have created the WO site for nothing, because I thought it was an honourable idea. And that, I think, is Farrah’s genius – she does not exploit people according to their greed – but presents being involved with her “businesses” as an opportunity to do something worthwhile for others.

Farrah and some of her defenders have made postings above. To them I would say this…

· Farrah, you need to take a long, hard look at yourself if you believe you are not using people, or that they deserved to be used. You are a disgrace to the women you claim to represent.

· “Raoul” and other defenders of Ms.Ashline – if you are alter-egos of Farrah, you need immediate therapy. If not, then I would seriously suggest you ask a friend to pinch you, because you need to wake up. These are not lies and rumours – these are facts – with documentary evidence to support them. And I fear that in time you will come to understand why so many people are venting their anger on public forums such as this - and maybe become one of them yourself.

Regards to all who have been taken advantage of.

In the hope fewer will in future,

Phil Thompson
Director: Cenobyte.biz

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 22, 2004 06:04 PM


I thought you might all find this interesting.

http://www.farrahashline.com

We love you Farrah!

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 23, 2004 03:45 PM

Oh Phil!!!! You are the best!

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 23, 2004 04:00 PM

http://www.ggo.test.janmedia.com/index.xml

A wise women once told me. . .

Writers can then individually contact the hosting company (janmedia) and
demand that their copyrighted works be taken down. Without payment, FA has
NO RIGHT to use them.


She's built a palace with other people's bricks.
Time to take back your
bricks.

Posted by: TakeAction at April 24, 2004 10:37 AM


Thanks TakeAction.

I urge others to do the same ASAP.

My email to JanMediaInteractive Inc...
__________________________________________________

To whom it may concern,

It has been drawn to my attention that you are running a test version of the WOMagazine.com website from the following url;

http://www.ggo.test.janmedia.com/womagazine/index.xml

it may be of interest to know that as the original designer and programmer of this site, my invoices to Ms.Farrah Ashline for this project have not been paid. Neither, to my knowledge, has any writer or illustrator been paid monies due by Ms.Ashline.

Therefore, she is not the legal owner of this material and in further developing this site using my original design and written articles by others you are in direct violation of international copyright law.

You are also engaging in fraudulent activity by removing my original "Cenobyte.biz" design footnote and asserting that the site is "powered by JanMediaInteractive Inc".

I would therefore request that you IMMEDIATELY CEASE further development of this site and REMOVE ALL RELATED CONTENT from your public servers.

I would also recommend you investigate Ms.Ashline's reputation of "interesting" working practices by doing a Google search on her name. You may wish to question her reliability as a client as a result.

Phil Thompson
Director: Cenobyte.biz

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 24, 2004 02:03 PM


http://listarchives.his.com/dcww/dcww.0212/msg00381.html

"Pay is commission based but current reps are averaging between 35K-80K yearly."

"Magazine pays $25 per article and all writers receive free passes to VIP events and parties."

Posted by: tralala at April 24, 2004 07:19 PM

Dear Phil et al,

Hello, and thank you for all of your information. I have several questions for you and for anyone else out there who can help me out. First, I wanted to know what can be done about the test version that was ripped off from you? Can you bring criminal charges against Farrah for copyright violation? In fact-- Can ANYONE have criminal charges brought against Farrah???

Farrah owes me $1380, but for me, it does not end there. She has plagiarized my work on the GGO website, so in theory, she owes a lot more than just money. Daily, I get increasingly angrier because more of her fraudulent acts are coming to light, and nothing is getting done. I am in the process of suing her, and at this point, it's a pyrrhic victory; I have lost so much, and the most I will get out of it is a pat on the back and a "good job!" for fighting the good fight. This woman has NO scruples whatsoever. None. It is not enough to have the entire world thinking that she's screwed everyone over; the wise thing to do would be to STOP. However, she is nothing but greedy and has succeeded in continuing to rip people off, from you, Phil, to the writers, and on down.

Farrah MUST pay, and I don't mean money. She must face the music, and frankly, I will not be happy until she does some prison time. You can return money, but returning one's dignity, lost time and trust is impossible.


Someone, please let us all know, what can be done??? Suing in Small Claims Court seems so futile.

Sign me,
Frustrated.

Posted by: Noelle at April 25, 2004 03:37 PM


I'm seeking legal advice at the moment.

In the meantime this may be useful...

http://whatiscopyright.org/

Using our work in whole or in part, in original or revised form, without paying us (or our permission), and removing our copyright credits are in direct violation of the Berne Convention.

In the US I believe it is necessary to have registered copyright in order to sue for financial damages - but it is not necessary to take legal action in cases of copyright violation.

So I believe that whilst it may be difficult to get our money, (particularly for me being in the UK), a criminal offence is being committed and we are well within our rights to demand removal and destruction of all related materials - or demand prosecution for said offences.

(Seeking further advice to confirm).

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 25, 2004 08:02 PM

Digital Millennium Copyright Act - 17 U.S.C. § 512

http://www.keytlaw.com/Copyrights/dmcalaw.htm


FYI

Posted by: ProtectYourRights at April 25, 2004 10:21 PM


"Needless to say, the commentary will not stop my purpose which is to forge forward in providing one of the most amazing web sites for women yet to come by April. There is a lot of real work to be done."

http://www.ggo.test.janmedia.com/index.xml

- a lot more work ahead of you than you think, Farrah, until that circa 1990 junkyard deserves the adjective "amazing" - don't give up the day job, honey.

Posted by: Raoul Wancarra at April 26, 2004 01:46 AM


I don't want to count chickens but it appears as if JanMedia Interactive Inc. have ceased work on WO and taken it offline. Thank you. If you're reading this, I hope you guys experience better luck in being paid than we have.

For reference purposes I have left the original version of the WO site on my test server at http://www.zoolagoon.com/womagazine - I have, of course, removed all material written by Ms.Ashline and will be happy to remove any material if requested to do so by the original authors - I am simply leaving it online as a service to fellow unpaid contributors who may wish to make screenshots, etc. for legal claim purposes.

I was never involved with the GGO site so I can't comment on it - other than to say that from the WO example it seems asserting your rights to your work does have results. So I'd suggest any contributor who feels their copyright is being violated on the new GGO site complains in similar terms to those I have used above.

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 26, 2004 04:33 AM

It's a bargain, you too can buy Farrah. It IS her day job.

But remember a Major Dislike ". . . pesty cops with nothing better to do when they SHOULD be out on the street solving REAL crimes. . ."


http://web.archive.org/web/20010623031538/http://www.babydollmassage.com/


Now that "pesty" Farrah, ain't she a piece of work? She sure does like the empowerment of women.

Posted by: LilBabyDollDayJob at April 26, 2004 10:11 AM


Update: I am liaising with a representative of JanMedia Interactive and am convinced that they were acting in good faith in developing WO and were not aware of copyright ownership issues concerning WO material.

I would suggest any GGO contributor (or indeed any other former employee) with a similar objection to their material being used on the WO or new GGO site to contact Jan Media and express their concerns ASAP.

I have also been contacted by Ms.Ashline regarding the removal of the WO site. I would quote in detail here I think you can probably imagine the content - in summary it's pretty much 'you knew I couldn't pay you until the site made money from advertising' (UNTRUE) and 'you let me down terribly by stopping work because I couldn't pay you and leaving me stranded without a web designer'. Oh, and she doesn't really care that the WO site has been taken down, because it wasn't making her money, anyway. The fact that she never paid for it doesn't seem to concern her one iota.

That says it all, doesn't it?

More news as it happens.

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 26, 2004 05:32 PM


A short message for Farrah - I read somewhere that she had the idea of "GirlsGoingOut.com" from listening to Cyndi Lauper's "Girls Just Want to Have Fun".

Here's a quote from another of Cyndi's songs, especially for Ms.Ashline.

"Revisions of history
fare well in some company
but don't shove that bullshit
down my throat."

- from "You don't know."

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 26, 2004 05:36 PM

Who is Raoul Wancarra?
I thought it was Ancarra?

Posted by: girlsgoinunder at April 26, 2004 10:32 PM

Did anyone have had any sexual encounter with her; last I know she was bi.

Posted by: Someone who knew her at April 27, 2004 05:06 AM

Her sexual preferences, outside of her prostitution, has no bearing on our topic here. We are here to discuss her fraudulant business practices and to establish her lack of credibility by exposing her lies.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 27, 2004 07:04 AM

Another goal is to spread the word about her so others won't be scammed. Thanks goes out to the Farrahashline.com site and Karma.fnord.net for their continous updates to those sites.

The word must be spread to the nine cities!!!!
If anyone has friends or relatives in any of those cities, please ask them if there are any webcommunity bulleten boards, like craig's list.

Posted by: girlsgoinunder at April 27, 2004 07:10 AM


I'd just like to go on record and comment on GirlsGoinUnder's last remark.

No doubt Farrah will accuse me of being some part of a "smear" campaign in the future, and making such postings out of "revenge". It isn't the case. If you knew me in reality you'd know I'm much more forgiving than that, and I don't harbour grudges for long.

I do not hate her, if anything I feel quite sorry for her - I regarded her as a friend and liked her very much, and believed in her and her ideas. And they're good ideas - and I think the shame of it is that if she had been honest from the start and told people she had no money to pay them many would have still contributed.

My public statements on these matters have been made for one reason and one reason only - I have been very hurt by this experience, as have many, many others. And I am just doing my little bit to try and prevent the same experience happening to more people in the future.

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 27, 2004 08:44 AM

I think that all of us who worked with Farrah initially thought of her as a friend and truly did believe in what she was saying and attempting to do. However, she used that "friendship" to her advantage and I believe she always knows all along what she is doing. (How else can you explain that she has been doing and saying the exact same thing to both men and women for 3+ years now) Phil, I commend and thank you for all the work you have done recently to shed new light on Farrah's practices. Phil it is ridiculous that Farrah told you you wouldn't get paid until after the site made money. Sorry Farrah, but that's your problem not your employees. When you hire someone for ANY job it is your responsiblity to have the money to pay them. It is the responsibility of the business owner to either have excess funds to pay people or they can not and should not hire people. I was never told that I would have to wait to receive my money until after I had already been working for Farrah and I am sure the same is true for everyone else.

Posted by: Candy at April 27, 2004 09:13 AM


Thanks Candy:

Re: "Phil it is ridiculous that Farrah told you you wouldn't get paid until after the site made money."

What you don't know is that it's when WO had gone live and she suggested me developing another new site for her so that advertising from that could be used to pay me for WO was when I stopped communicating with her. I may be a gullible fool but I'm not THAT stupid.

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 27, 2004 11:47 AM

Phil
That is the essence of my last post. If she sreads out to other cities, how will those unsuspecting people know of her fraudulant practices? I'm not starting a smear campaign. I just feel that the nine cities she plans on expanding to should know the truth.
Now I've met Farrah a couple of times and truthfully, I saw right through her. Smear campaign, revenge, what ever you want to call it, I don't care. What I won't stand for is someone blatantly taking advantage of those around her. It comes right down to the fact that what she is doing is stealing. Weak people steal. They prey on the unsuspecting and I can't stand it. Hate her? God damn right I do. I, personally have lost no money to Farrah. It's the principle.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 27, 2004 02:43 PM

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Posted by: Crazy*itch@ItAgain at April 27, 2004 09:32 PM

The saddest part of this all is that Farrah is able to put up more posts, and sadly more poor unsuspecting people will buy into her idea and lies. Notice how the ad for the Director of Sales and Marketing is shown with a salary and commission! Yeah right, heard that before. It sounds like a good job, good experience, and certainly good money, I am SURE she will get at least 20 resumes if not way more than that.... but all it really takes is one. I strongly do feel that by opening in other cities she will not only dupe other people into "working" for her, but she will also dupe women into paying for their GGO membership. It's all so sad... it's as if nothing we do even matters she can just go on and hurt more people. For me personally, I know have put in so much time, effort, money, and far too many tears and still I feel powerless. Their is a part of my old happy trusting self that Farrah has taken away from me forever. She has tarnished my opinion of women, people in general, bosses, self-employeed people, and internet companies.

Posted by: Candy at April 28, 2004 09:16 AM

Candy (and everyone else), about the hurt: I had almost no money taken from me (only $40) but the messed-up mind games Farrah played on me made it all seem like much more. At one moment, she seemed nice and sweet and then she would do a 180 to scream at me on the phone. She lied and accused me of things and then misremembered actual facts. And wouldn't even pay that $40! (Honestly, Farrah...that's like a lunch for two.)

She is not a nice person. And to Candy--please don't lose your faith in people. Farrah may be a shining example of why the US legal system exists, but she is certainly not a shining example of the human race.

You should write her off as a throwback and keep trusting in people. Honestly--after a whole year of fretting over the way she was treating me (which is when I finally gave up on getting my money back), I realized the jerk actually did something for me--she highlighted how good other people really were. She is the worst a person of little power can be. And she's a rare example--which is why everybody's so pissed off.

That being said, I would be happy to help anyone with their lawsuits. Not as a plaintiff, but as a free assistant. Anything I can do...just email me. I'm serious. I'm not a lawyer, but I can type, phone, fax, copy, research, and otherwise use my time.

Posted by: Dryope at April 29, 2004 01:11 PM

The only reason I asked about her sexual orientation because she provides sexual favors as compensation to me. I was wondering weather she ever used the same method with female friends and employees.

Posted by: Someone who knew her at April 29, 2004 01:22 PM

So "Someone"

You are saying that she provides (as in still does from the tense you used) sexual favors for you in lieu of acutal cash for the services you provide for her?
What are those services you provide for her?

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at April 29, 2004 01:38 PM

Dryope: Thank you for the encouraging words and I hope that it will be able to counter some of the bad taste my experience with Farrah left.

How NOT surprised am I that Farrah trades sexual favors in lieu of real monetary payment for work.

I have no doubt in my mind that when GGO re-launches in 9 cities Farrah will find MANY people to rip off both as members and as employees. It's a shame but I would be willing to bet that those who will lose money to Farrah will only come upon posts such as these after its too late.

Posted by: Candy at April 29, 2004 03:15 PM


"I have no doubt in my mind that when GGO re-launches in 9 cities Farrah will find MANY people to rip off both as members and as employees."

JanMedia Interactive Inc. have just informed me that they have amicably parted ways with Farrah and are no longer working on the new GGO.com site.

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 29, 2004 08:45 PM


Quote from a friend after I told them GGO had been taken down...

" Oh she'll find some piece of floating lumber from it to leach herself onto.

(you'd have) better luck killing Freddie or Jason."

Posted by: Phil Thompson at April 29, 2004 10:19 PM

Gee, the anticipation is killing me!!

I just can't wait until Friday the 7th!!

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at May 4, 2004 05:31 PM

I too am waiting for May 7th to see what happens with GGO. Something tells me that some "emergency" will occur and thus push the re-release date even further back. (Just like with paychecks!)

Anyone have any more info about Farrah's whereabouts? Is she still in Green Ledge Court? Did she move to MD?

Posted by: Candy at May 5, 2004 12:31 PM


Last I heard she'd moved to Bowie.

Posted by: Phil Thompson at May 5, 2004 02:33 PM

Looks like she moved to Beltsville:
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/bik/30040988.html
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/clo/30045648.html

...and she needs some cash.

Posted by: buh-bye at May 6, 2004 05:13 PM


...no doubt in a few days there will be a new poster here saying "I lent Farrah my bike and some vintage dresses"...

Posted by: GirlsGoingDownLikeALeadBalloon at May 6, 2004 05:18 PM

How do you that's her?

Posted by: ??? at May 6, 2004 05:20 PM

Check out the phone number in the ad.

Posted by: buh-bye at May 6, 2004 06:50 PM

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/fur/30507154.html

Dont forget this one

Posted by: girlsgoinunder at May 6, 2004 08:29 PM

After posting my remarks on this bulletin board, Farrah contacted me to ask me why I did this. This is why: not stepping forward would be like not reporting a rape. and not reporting the rapist allows them to continue to rape more victims. HEY FARRAH, I KNOW YOU READ THIS BULLETIN! IT'S ERNESTO AND I'M HELPING TO PUT AN END TO YOUR TWISTED WAYS

Posted by: ERNESTO at May 7, 2004 08:09 AM

Thank you so much Ernesto.

Rachel

Posted by: Rachel Ludwig at May 7, 2004 09:24 AM

I'm surprised there aren't tumbleweeds rolling across the GGO website.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at May 8, 2004 06:22 PM

As to WOmagazine.com she no longer owns this and would be wise to cease and assist in doing any advertising with this name as she is no longer the owner of the domain. She also is still using me as the WO Asst. Editor on the JanMeida test site, this must mean I am still hired and being paid for this job? I have no gotten paid for it -- yet she is still using me as a contact? She is also using my graphics and numberous articles I have written on her test site as well... all which have never been paid for... Noelle is right it is no longer just money but prinicpal.

Karma is a Bitch... Give her enough rope. OH BTW Stay Tuned thereś something good brewing on my end!


April

Posted by: April at May 9, 2004 03:29 AM


The JanMedia Test Site has been frozen April - they've only left it on their server to demo it to other clients in the hope of selling it to recoup your losses. Farrah has no control over it.

Posted by: Phil Thompson at May 9, 2004 09:40 PM


P.S. Sorry - typo - their losses, not your losses.

Posted by: Phil Thompson at May 9, 2004 09:42 PM

Thanks Phil (*wink*)


April:)

Posted by: April at May 10, 2004 12:59 PM

Dear Friends
I m latest Victim of Ferrah Ashline(atleast I know her by that name). Everything mentioned about her on this forum is so true. Couple of months back I saw one ad for house rent at craigslist.com posted by Ferrah, I met her and she seemed to be a nice and progessive mindset person (a pefect con artist). Since this place was near to my work place I rented one bed room at this place (she told me she owns the place). She told me about her business and have 130 employee and bla, blah, blah......
I paid her $1450.00 ($600.00 as rent and $850.00 as deposit), after I moved in her attitude was totally different. She was a different person inside, very mean and self centered. Then she started me to ask to invest in her business and wanted to involve some of my friends in it, which i promptly said no. I never introduced any of my friends to her as I wasn't sure of her. She would tell emotional stories abour her. Once she asked for $100.00 with promise to return it in couple of days, somehow I got it back by deducting from my rent (after 20 days). I wanted to leave that place at once(I knew there was hardly any chance of getting my diposit money back) I consulted one lawyer friend, he suggested, since monetary benefits are very small so it may not be worth fighting for it, I should give one month's notice, so that I have all the rite papers in hand and Can file a court case against her (I have all the paper work in hand, Agreement, One month notice, her ad. for renting one bedroom at craigslist.com). I vacated her apt. on 04/30/2004, she won't give back my deposit saying that she will send it by registered mail in couple of days, She told me that she has bought a house at Bowie MD. She had a Yard sale also recently. I had one Wirless Router left at her place and my deposit, I have given her lot of calls and left voice mails, she just won't return this call. Today I just happen to search her name on internet and found out out that I m not the only one who has been conned by her. It's her business to con people. I m filing a case against her in small claims court in Fairfax for sure and hope my experience with her will be helpful to someone in future.

Posted by: Lucky at May 10, 2004 02:05 PM

Go get her Lucky!!! She has multiple judgements already against her and more will help put an end to this Bitch's quest to cheat people.

Now directing this towards Farrah herself..

Go seek professional help. You have a serious mental problem that needs attention of a professional psychiatrist. Now I'm not a professional myself but I can't see how you can live with yourself cheating people. It's obvious you have NO self-esteem and this fantasy world you live in prohibits you from being a productive member of society. Stand up for the empowerment of yourself first, then you may, if you are lucky, help those around you. Otherwise your already insignifgicant life will deteriorate to nothingness.
Grow up Farrah and take responsibility for your actions.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at May 10, 2004 02:40 PM

Dear "Lucky" and all others contemplating suing Farrah,

I suggest that you leave your calendar WIDE open when you file in small claims court. I filed against Farrah, she was served her papers 30 days prior to the date she was required to appear in court, yet 3 days before that date, she called Fairfax County Courthouse and excercised her rights to have the case moved to a higher court. Because of this, a new court date was issued, another 30 days later. I don't have to point out the obvious-- it was completely inconsiderate and rude of her to make such last minute arrangements; sadly, though, we all have come to expect that of Ms. Farrah Ashline. Unfortunately, we cannot change this, so I am just recommending that if you plan on suing her, have multiple dates and months available. Have time set aside and a lot of patience.

That said and done, it is quite possible to sue Ms. Ashline AND win a favorable judgment. Ms. Ashline may be manipulative, but she leaves a messy trail of paperwork behind her that completely blows all her credibility out of the water.

Good luck.

Posted by: Good luck to you at May 10, 2004 07:12 PM

Hey Lucky, please email me.
Thanks,
Rachel
Lehcar601@cox.net

Posted by: Rachel Ludwig at May 11, 2004 05:50 PM

farrah has recently taken my money. she came up and started talking to me and she seemed fine. we have chatted a few times and we have gone out to dinner a couple of times. on thursday of last week she called and said she was robbed and sorry to bother me, but could i help. of course i run out and help her and bring her to my apt. where i calm her down and we talk and she tells me about how she was robbed of all the money she had for rent and deposit for her new apt. she then says she is attracted to me and it scares her (i am a straight female). nothing came of that and she spent the night on my couch.
in the morning i lent her 600$ aand she promised me that she would get the money over the weekend to repay me. i called her on sunday and she said she would have it sunday evening. it has now been three days, she has only answered the phone when i called from a friends house. she got mad at me, said i was "just like all the rest" and hung up on me. is my money gone for good?

Posted by: shelley at May 12, 2004 11:52 AM

Sorry Shelley but your money is gone.
She has no money. Her accounts are empty and she owes many people lots of money. This girl is washed up. Don't believe anything she tells you . She is a habitual liar.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at May 12, 2004 01:52 PM

Shelly,

I am very sorry to hear about your situation... but you should never lend money to people you barely know- especially that much money. I am SURE her "robbery" is a total lie. Unfortunetly I doubt you will ever get your money back unless you had her sign some sort of IOU paper. (Unlikely) You can call her all you want, she's just going to lie, blow you off, and then make threats at you. I am very sorry for you but I doubt you will ever see a penny of your money.

Posted by: Candy at May 12, 2004 03:31 PM

Hey Farrah

Gee, all that money stolen from you.

Did you file a police report on this robbery?

You suck Farrah. Stop taking innocent people's money. You are a drain on society.

Posted by: girlsgoingunder at May 12, 2004 03:46 PM

To all:

I wanted to keep everyone updated on my situation... I was scheduled to have a new court date in June where I had hoped to pick up my garnishment check. Stupid me... I actually thought I might find a way to get my money. Of course yesterday I get paperwork back saying the accounts are empty and closed. (I had submitted my garnishment to the Navy Federal Credit Union.) I am at a loss of what to do. Do I pay even more money to the courts for something that will never happen?? I always said I never just wanted to give up but I feel like I have done so much within the past year and have nothing to show for it. I do not want to carry Farrah and GGO with me for another year. Does anyone know of anything else I could try? (I would love to submit paperwork on her "house" in MD but there are too many unanswered questions about the house, if she even does own it or where it is and then there is the issue that its a different state)

I hate you so much Farrah. You are a rotten horrible person and it makes me sick that you are free to roam the streets, continuing to use and abuse others when you belong in jail for the things you have done.

Posted by: Candy at May 13, 2004 09:23 AM

Candy et al.
I highly doubt that Farrah purchased that house in MD. You have to have credit in order to purchase a house and as we all can guess she has no money.the Navy Federal Credit Union is not the only account she has; however, her other accounts have either been closed or has such a nominal amount in them that it's almost not worth it. Farrah is running scared right now. Did you notice that she moved right after I pointed out that Rachel is steps away from a warrant? I hope she doesnt get a pulled over for speeding out of VA. I'm sure she is not sleeping well and I bet she is freaking out even more than usual. Have you noticed we haven't heard from her...no